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Sunday, May 4, 2008

Me & the Great Online Dating Experiment

There’s this one site I am absolutely glued to, HoneyandLance.com. (Love ya, guys.) Mostly, I’ve been fascinated by the pick-up artist end of things. This experiment was inspired by a post in which Lance mentions that he opens up a girl by asking about crazy online dating stories, which most girls have. Not me, I thought. Not yet.

*Let me preface this by saying that I think we all know we each just want to get a little action at some point. I don’t think it’s fair that because I’m a female with a busy and full schedule without time for a serious relationship, I should be excluded from the nooky end of things. To further complicate matters, I don’t drink, so I can’t do what most of my girlfriends do – go out, drink a little, hook-up with a guy at the end of the night and blame it all on the alcohol.

So, how does a single, dare I say, attractive young woman with little time on her hands go about dating pretty much for the first time in her life because she’s been a serial monogamist since high school? You sign up for an online dating site and tell all your friends that you’re doing it as research for your blog.

Ha.

In all honesty, I’ve really enjoyed it. Some of my girlfriends have tried it, and those who haven’t are thrilled to watch me be the guinea pig and listen to my stories. I tend to approach most things these days with a sense of adventure, and admittedly, doing it as “research” for the site allowed me to stay unemotional about it. I just went for it.

Making the Profile
Here’s what I did. I made my profile. I first searched and found profiles I thought were appealing. I liked the profiles of guys who had travel and action photos, as well as clear mug shots. So I added those kinds of photos to my profile. Then I read a few I liked and shaped my profile after theirs. Specifics really are great, by the way. I got more comments about describing what I like to do after a good run more than any of the general "me" stuff.

Displaying Interest
Then I set my search criteria. I winked at all of the guys who I thought were good-looking and had interesting profiles, a conservative move in the world of online dating. (If you haven't online dated, "winking" is the simplest, most basic level of interest. Using it is often considered a wuss move.) Three of the original four wrote back. The good ones were brief (a couple lines), included something specific about my profile that they liked and asked a question, thus eliciting a response from me. I responded with matching length (imitation is a form of flirting) and similar comments. They usually e-mailed back a much lengthier response and thus deeper e-mail conversation began. After a few e-mails, meeting was suggested, and a few hours before meeting, numbers were exchanged.

The Dates
In total, I have dated four guys from the online dating site. I will not use their names here, but here’s the run-down.

Date #1: Lawyer, over 30, divorced, no kids.

Date #2: Financial advisor, closer to my age, never married, no kids.

Date #3: Pilot, over 30, divorced, no kids.

Date #4: Lawyer, over 30, never married, one kid.

Date #1
The first meet-up with Date #1 went well. We had good conversation, he was decent-looking and intelligent. It's just that I simply didn’t feel it. And although this might add credence to what some guys call impossibly high standards, I just couldn’t handle that he tucked his T-shirts into his jeans and wore a belt too. I don’t think that’s having high standards; I think it’s just a personality thing.

Things tapered off with him, especially after he seemed to be in constant contact – e-mailing, text messaging or calling. I realize that because of my busy schedule it can be difficult to display interest, but he came on too strong for me, especially given my slight case of relationship phobia (I’m a classic Sagittarius – can’t be tied down).

Date #2
Date #2 was a lunch date. Neither one of us had an evening free. Good sign, I thought. He takes his career seriously, too. I was also really excited to meet another young professional in my city (south Texas isn’t exactly Young Professional Central). We got along great and had decent conversation. Still there’s not much you can get from a one-hour lunch date, so I proposed a baseball game (I have phenomenal tickets behind home plate for our local AA ball club). By the end of the night, I pretty much figured this one for a really cool friend. We had lunch again, and it sealed the deal. I think we could both pretty much tell there wasn’t a spark there. I did invite him to a young pros networking event this weekend, and I think he’ll make a great contact and friend since we’re both driven in our careers.

Date #3
Date #3 was a bust. He looked a lot older than I thought he would. The convo was decent. I introduced him to two coworkers/friends who happened to be at the café we met at. The next day the male coworker asked if I had known Date #3 long. Nooo, I said slowly. Why? Ask Female Coworker, he said. Ohhhh. Forget it. He called, but I’m not returning it. Too complicated and I wasn't that interested anyway.

Date #4
By the time Date #4 rolled around, I had already decided to call it quits. This is the last one, I thought. No more freakin’ online dates. We met for Thai food. We ended up going for coffee and talking until 11 pm. He walked me to my car and stopped my door just short of closing, leaned in and said, “I had a really good time. Really.” Hmmm. I drove off smiling a little.

The next morning I decided to kick it up a notch. I sent a highly flirtatious text message: “Morning tiger. Great date last night. Hope you’re having a good Tuesday.” I figure this would indicate that I’m interested beyond a friendship level and hopefully surprise and delight a little. I figured it also showed self-confidence.

A client cancelled on me two days later, leaving me an unexpected hole in my schedule, and Date #4 just happened to ask on the off chance whether I was free for the evening. As a matter of fact…

He picked me up for dinner. I had some fear after Date #1 that all lawyers dress poorly, and our first date together he had arrived in full suit, fresh out of the office. Luckily, not so. He was perfectly dressed down and sporting glasses (H-O-T). More great dinner conversation. He could keep up with me intellectually, which is not common, and he could talk about personal stuff, which was refreshing after GIWS (Guy I Was Seeing).

I suggested a walk on the beach post-dinner (my new pad is a 120-second walk to the beach). More great convo. No smooch. He walked me to my door and I invited him in to check out the new digs I’d been raving about. Finally, make-out action. Good make-out action. Damn near perfect. Not too aggressive (I still have my tonsils, check), not too light (we have tongues, check). I let it slip that I am surprised, pleasantly so. He checks out for the evening and I go to bed thinking I might be in trouble.

Date #4 was unexpected, especially considering he’s the one with an actual deal-breaker (kid). I’m struggling a little to keep things in perspective and not to do the I-can't-have-a-relationship freak-out thing, considering we've had two dates. But that's a whole other can of worms. I’ve definitely made it clear to him that my businesses are my number one priority and that I don’t have a lot of free time. I have also made it relatively clear that I’m not looking for anything serious. Hopefully that's enough for now.

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13 Comments:

Blogger Alex said...

He I read the post, "Me & the Great Online Dating Experiment"..... It is very interesting and helps the newbies to the online dating....
”Online Dating”

May 5, 2008 3:03 AM  
Anonymous barnschop said...

Since you did not have much success with the first three I would think that you were running before you could walk in repsect to online dating.
Before meeting, chat online and get the gaps filled in on the guy's profile.

May 5, 2008 7:33 AM  
Blogger Ian Selvarajah said...

Ha ha! Great post! I've often told my friends that the ONLY way I would agree to sign up to an online dating site is if I could turn it into a social experiment!

Here's where I saw a potential hitch: Do you think girls/guys would be unhappy if they knew you were blogging about your date(s)? How do/did you plan to address this (i.e. did you tell them ahead of time)?

I assume everyone has Google these days so they could find out you have a blog...

May 5, 2008 12:41 PM  
Anonymous Holly Hoffman said...

@alex: Thanks for reading!

@barnschop: Well, actually I chatted with all 4 of them for a while before we met. 25% is a pretty good rate of return when you consider how many winks and messages I got over the course of a month. I think that at some point you're just going to have to see if there's any chemistry there, and that happens in person.

May 5, 2008 12:42 PM  
Anonymous Holly Hoffman said...

@ian: Great questions! Two of the four know my blog url (that I know of) because I gave it to them. I waited until I had met with them a few times and could decide what they were going to be (friends, potential, etc.).

I actually asked Lance over at HoneyandLance.com what he did too. He keeps his blog completely confidential and uses a pen. I don't have that luxury. Especially with Date #4, who I actually think has some solid potential, I prefaced my giving him the website url with a warning: that I blog about everything in my life openly and candidly, that it's a priority in my life, and asked for non-judgment as it relates to those things. GIWS read my blog all the time and seemed cool with it, too.

Of course, for legal purposes, you should do everything you can to protect their anonymity, which I do by using vague details and nicknames.

Btw, I highly recommend it as a "social experiment." I'll be writing a few more posts about my experiences - the pros, the cons, and the unexpected. Stay tuned!

May 5, 2008 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Norcross said...

HAHAHA! I'm all for the on-line route. I actually met my wife via MySpace, although neither of us were looking for a relationship. Funny how that works out.

Also, good deal with dating outside the rooms. I always went by the motto "never dip my pen in the company ink".

May 5, 2008 1:16 PM  
Blogger Lance said...

Holly, terrific post. I love the mixture of personal and advice here. Don't be afraid of any social stigma from online dating...EVERYONE has done it or is doing it. In major cities, it's practically the only way to go. I think of it in the same way I think of email or texting. Ubiquitous.

Personally, I hate the wink system, and I think a lot of other online vets agree. I'm sure it works great for women, though, but I know for guys sending a wink is meaningless. Women get so many emails that winks are deleted. My take is if you think someone is cute, take the time to read their profile and write a decent 2-3 line email. We're already cutting enough corners by dating online as it is.

Hmm, what else? Oh yeah, you should forward me your profile name, I'd love to "review it"!

May 5, 2008 3:35 PM  
Anonymous Honey said...

Holly, I loved the post as well. I am going to dig up some of my "greatest hits" from my online dating days, it really is the best for stories.

I'm with Lance on winks--HATE them, but as a girl you can kind of get away with it. Kind of like if you're in a bar a girl could actually wink at guys and have them approach, but the reverse almost never works. If you forward me your profile name, I could give you a "review" as well! I gave Lance a bunch of tips on his.

As far as anonymity...obviously I use a pen as well, and some key identifying details (of both me and the BF) are used. Because I'm in a relationship, I clear whatever I divulge with him first for obvious reasons. However, for guys I just dated, I vague it up some. I personally only told about three friends that I had a blog because I think it would undermine some of my professional credibility if it were commonly known, though I don't think it will always be that way.

For what it's worth, I think you're doing great and are going to have a blast!

May 5, 2008 5:51 PM  
Anonymous Holly Hoffman said...

@norcross: Honey at HoneyandLance.com met her BF on MySpace too. How come I only meet douche bags on MySpace? As to dating in the rooms, oh hell no. Been there, done that. BIG mistake. But you know, we like to learn the hard way right? ;)

@Lance: I live in a smallish city full of people who have hung out with pretty much the same people their whole lives. Very clique-ish. I like that most of the guys I've met aren't from here or haven't lived here long. It's been nice getting out of my "circle." And yes, I delete winks!

@Honey: Thanks for reading! I must admit that I'm slightly disappointed that I made it out relatively unscathed - no nutjobs, no scandals, no good stories really. I guess that's a good thing! ;)

May 6, 2008 12:24 PM  
Anonymous dadshouse said...

Honey and Lance are awesome! Love that site.

Your date #2 sounds great - definitely keep after that guy if you feel there's a cool friend/young professional connection. It's always good to increase your circle of friends.

As for date #4 - wow, congrats! Sounds great. Don't let kids be an automatic deal breaker!!!!! I'm a single dad, so I'm pretty passionate about that. One woman I met for drinks post-divorce was set up with me by mutual friends. She admitted she would NEVER date a single dad and was only going out with me because of her friend. We ended up dating over a year. Just give it a chance.

As for online winks - they are bad bad bad. Men who use them are wusses. Women who use them can look desperate to some. Sounds like you got away with it, but my advice is just let the men find you.

May 6, 2008 2:31 PM  
Anonymous marta76 said...

Well, you know my experience with going on a date from myspace. YIKES! No dates yet from match...

May 6, 2008 6:34 PM  
Blogger Da1starr said...

You make me laugh...out loud! Thanks Kiddo! Hope 4 turn out to be a winner!

May 7, 2008 8:27 AM  
Anonymous Honey said...

Well, the BF was one of two "random" guys that I e-mailed on Myspace. The other guy sent me a long pornographic story that he claimed to have written himself ("inspired" by me, tough since we hadn't yet met) but which, when googled, turned out to be off some seedy website.

Can I tell you how good the BF was looking when he e-mailed me back and said "I checked out your profile and saw that we have the same favorite book"? Pretty good, indeed!

May 7, 2008 10:47 AM  

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